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Being real with therapy, postpartum depression, family, & friends

by Jane on September 15, 2009 · 21 comments

real with postpartum depressionLast Thursday and Friday nights Monkey and I spent the night at my parent’s house.  The painters came over on Thursday to paint Monkey’s new nursery (my old office) and I didn’t want the paint smell to bother him.  Tarzan stayed at home with our little dog so that he could get some work done and have some uninterrupted sleep.

Thursday night my parents, Monkey, and I were in the living room and my dad asked about that first psychiatrist appointment for my postpartum depression.  Before I continue with the story, you should know that I have never been super close with my dad in the sense that I share things like psychiatrists appointment and postpartum depression with him.  He’s a great dad, but he lacks the emotional part that a daughter needs at times.

However, my therapist told me that I need to be “real” with people in my life and then set up boundaries if they don’t respond.  I started by being real and sharing the awful psychiatrist appointment with my dad.  It’s really such a big step because there are many things in my life that he doesn’t know about and that’s mainly just because he’s never seemed to care much.  Or at least act like he cares.

Anyways, I told my parents the whole psychiatrist appointment and how awful it was.  My dad kind of laughed at the whole thing, especially the guy who was screaming in the waiting room.  (Not a lack of compassion kind of laugh, but just that I was stuck in the waiting room kind of laugh.)

I told him that this psychiatrist wanted me to up my Lexapro dosage and add Abilify to treat my postpartum depression.  He asked if I did and I said that I didn’t and don’t plan on it.  I told him that the 10mg of Lexapro was doing the trick and that I’m seemingly so much better than just two weeks ago.

Then he pulled a Tom Cruise on me.

He said, “You know Jane, you don’t need to be on an anti-depressant.  You just need to get out of the house and do something to make you feel better.  In time you will start feeling better and the depression will be gone.  You don’t need medicine to treat postpartum depression.”

So. Annoying.

You see, my dad is the type that does not believe in medicine (obviously).  He is extremely healthy and thinks that making good choices when it comes to food, exercise, etc are what is key to good health.  While I do agree that it’s important to eat healthy & exercise, I do not agree with him about all medicines, especially his advice to not take an anti-depressant with postpartum depression.

But that’s my dad and this the exact reason that it’s hard for me to be real with him.  He just doesn’t get it at times.  And it’s so incredibly frustrating, especially when you’re on the receiving end of his rant, like I was with the anti-depressant to treat postpartum depression.

Then, as if that wasn’t bad enough, he went a step further and my annoyance turned into being pissed off.  Really pissed off.

We were about to have dinner and my dad took a bottle of wine from the refrigerator and put it on the table.  I hadn’t said a word; I was feeding Monkey at the time and actually quite oblivious to what was going on.  My dad looked over at me and said, “This is not for you.  You cannot have any.”

Um, excuse me?  Last time I checked I was an adult, have a child, and damn capable of making my own decision, alcohol and all.

I guess I should tell you that my dad enjoys being in control too, which is where this all stems from.

I am not one to keep my mouth shut and I thought my therapist would be proud of me for keeping it real and I told him that although I didn’t even want a glass of wine, if I did want one, I am able to have one.  I checked with my doctor and the pharmacist and was told the same thing:  I can have the occasional glass of wine, beer, etc as long as the beverage is enjoyed hours after taking my anti-depressant.

Then I began arguing with my dad for something that I was even interested in drinking at the time, all due to the principle of it.  He told me that “in his house his word is law” and that I “am not allowed to have alcohol in his house”.  You would seriously think that I was a recovering alcoholic or something.  It was ridiculous.

I told him that he wasn’t a doctor and that it was just his opinion and that I didn’t appreciate being treated like a teenager when I’m just about 30 years old.  I told him that I understood that his comment was out of concern, but that I didn’t appreciate his delivery of it.

He told me that I was being disrespectful.  I told him that he was frustrating me.  And then our words to one another stopped as he went into his bedroom to watch television and I contemplated leaving.

I just wanted to cry.

In a matter of minutes I was brought back to being a teenager with a strict parent.  (I would be grounded in high school if I was a minute late after curfew.)  And yes, I’m sure that he was just watching out for me, but he lacks the good communication skills of relaying a message of concern.  Instead he makes me defensive and fight for something that I wasn’t even interested in having.

That went down last Thursday and we haven’t talked since.  I know that he’s angry at me, but I know that I have to set up boundaries in the future so this doesn’t happen again.  I also know that I can’t control his feelings and that this wasn’t my fault.  It’s his issue with control.

Surprisingly this did not alter my mood in a negative way.  Yes, I was annoyed and angry, but it was only with my dad.  I chose not to let it get to me so that I was a grumpy Gus for the rest of the day.  I can only control so much.

On a much better note, I’m still doing great.  Tomorrow will be one-week since I cried about postpartum depression and I really feel proud of myself.  I feel like I’m in a whole other place and it’s nice.  Even my OB told me last Friday that I looked great, had a calm and peaceful look to me, and that I was smiling a lot more.  Then she hugged me and said that she was so happy that I was feeling better.

I am too.

That night I dropped off some diapers that we don’t use (Pampers Swaddlers) to a neighbor that has a two-week old.  I told her that we like Pampers Baby Dry a lot better and that maybe the Swaddlers would work for her.  She started telling me how hard breastfeeding is, that her son will take an hour to nurse, sleep for an hour, and be up again.

There wasn’t desperation in her voice like how I felt, but there was definitely frustration.  She asked how I did it and if he gets better.  I told her that it does in fact get better and just to give it time.

Oh time… there’s that word again.

She told me that I seem like I have it all together with Monkey and asked how I do it.  I laughed and then was real with her, telling her that I do not have it all together at all.  I shared a little of my postpartum depression with her and told her that we would get together when she got back in town to talk, mother-to-mother.

My how the tables have turned. ;)

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You rock! Thanks not only for keeping it real with your dad, but for sharing it with the rest of us so we can laugh, cry and scream right along with you. Once again, you've made it into my best of the web postpartum lineup:
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See? I told you you'd soon be on the other side :) You are doing so great. And you are absolutely right to speak your mind to people (even when they are your father!) that say things that are insulting or rude. You are making great decisions!

Totally not the subject of your post, but I just had to say I'm thrilled to learn we're not the only ones who didn't have a magazine-worthy nursery waiting for the baby the day she was born!

Our 2nd bedroom was box storage for my stuff after I moved in with my husband, then I got pregnant immediately and was soon put on bed-rest for the duration. And heaven knows AFTER the baby there's no chance (or isn't every baby a poor sleeper who demands to be entertained 24/7?). Is it sad that my goal is to get her into a real nursery by her first birthday??!?

Hi Jane,
I just had to respond to your post... your dad sounds SO MUCH like mine. He's Mr. Know It All about everything, including pregnancy/parenting, and exactly the same as yours regarding medication. Two years ago his doctor put him on high blood pressure medication, after 6 months he decided he could just take care of it with vitamins. Fast forward to this past summer where his high blood led to a stroke. He's obviously learned his lesson now about staying on medication, but it took an EXTREME situation to make him see the light. It's awesome you have a supportive relationship with your mom, it sounds like it's good that the two of you (and Monkey) get to do stuff together without having your dad around all the time. My mom and I do the same thing, not that I don't love my dad, but there's no shame in avoiding unnecessary aggravation either.

Thanks for posting about the PPD. I wish I had posted more about it when I was at th height of it. I didn't go on anti-depressants until I was 6 months post partum and I should've a lot sooner than I did. Just curious ar eyou breast feeding? I was.

I'm going to skip all the stuff with your dad and go straight to the end of that post. It's so good to hear you're doing better and that someone else seems to be reaching out to you with frustration....and that you can be real, and even suggestive of getting together at some point instead of avoiding all contact. I'm so happy for you!! <3

Thank you for sharing, very informative :-)

I am SO sorry to hear how your dad treated you. My mom didn't really "get" my PPD either and tried to tell me that I don't need meds and just need to basically suck it up because it is hard for everyone. Just when I needed her support she made me feel worse. I think that someone in my family who actually reads my blog might have clued her into how bad I was feeling, and now she is much more understanding--letting me do what I need to do to feel better without telling me that I shouldn't do this or that. I hope your dad comes around.

And about the painting: I'm a painter (a scenic artist for theatre) and had to take many precautions regarding paint fumes/chemicals when I was pregnant. Keeping Monkey out of the house no matter what you are painting and what you are using (low VOC or not) is a good call.

I'm so happy that you're feeling better by the day! I'm proud of you for standing up to your dad. He may never get it and he may never agree with you, but perhaps while he retreated to his room to pout and watch TV, he had a moment where he thought to himself, "I'm proud I raised such a strong and opinionated daughter." Even if it drives him crazy at the same time :)

Glad to hear you're doing better :)

I think your experience with your neighbor brings up a good point. With motherhood, we always think that everybody else has it "together" and is doing great, and we're the only ones who are struggling with the new state of things. For some reason, it's like there's this hidden side of motherhood where women don't actually share how hard they're having it. I don't know if it's because you can't truly know how hard it is until you do it, or if it's so taboo to say, "I really didn't expect this, I didn't know what I was signing up for, and sometimes I might have a bit of regret about becoming a mother..." But from your blog, it seems that most people feel this way, we just don't say it, or feel like we cant. Kudos to you for saying the things on your mind. I just had my baby on July 13th, and there are still some days where I'm at a loss and feel overwhelmed. They're not happening as often, but they happen. We as women need to share more about those times, instead of putting on a smile and acting as if we're the best mom and wife and home-maker or whatever--and causing other women to doubt themselves along the way. I felt like I couldn't go to any of my friends about my feelings because it didn't seem like they'd experienced the same thing, even though they probably had.

Sorry about your dad. My dad is pretty much exactly like yours. Some guys just don't have a lot of sensitivity. He clearly just doesn't know anything about depression. Try your best to be patient with him and educate him. You don't have to share your personal business with him - and I wouldn't anymore if I were you - but you can straighten him out about what ppd is.

Good for you being honest with the girl down the street. It will help others suffering with ppd to know they're not alone.

Can totally relate to the family frustration thing... I had that all the time in my 1st pregnancy trimester, when I was an emotional mess. Now, not that I don't get frustrated at times, but it helps to remember that, it may not seem, feel or look like it, but your family does love you A LOT. All relationship and personality issues aside, the fact is that he loves you. So try to overlook those uncalled for comments, I know it's hard but try and give him a call or something, just to end this battle... 'Cause it is possible to make boundaries and make peace at the same time. I came to this conclusion after lots of crying and lots of praying... Don't know what your beliefs are, but talking to God has helped me more than anything. It's reassuring to know that there's someone above all the mess that I or someone else might make, that someone has my back no matter what. Anyway, didn't mean to type that much! :) Just wanted to share my experience and tell you that I think you're awesome, and we're all rooting for you!!

Thanks for sharing this...it good to hear others being open and talking about mental illness for what it is and not closeting it or worse, denying that mental illness is a real health issue.

Since you mentioned about the paint odors and Monkey, I would recommend that in the future you request that the house painters use only low odor, zero VOC, non-toxic paints around the house. They can be bought anywhere these days.

You go girl. I am so happy to read this. I too hate people who think mental illnesses are just a 'bad day.' My father is bipolar, so it irks me when people try to say he just needs to eat better or some other crap. I hope you can enjoy being a mother now. Monkey's first Halloween is coming up soon!

You helped another mom! That's great...It drives me batty when people think that afflictions of the mind are not real illnesses--That is almost criminal to me. (I know that sounds extreme, but I really feel that way.) Stay strong!

You sound so much better, if you can get through the situation with your dad without crying you are definitely doing better. I felt upset for you just reading that part, but then felt so happy that you stood up for yourself and were able to seperate that instance from everything else.

And this really goes to show that all those moms you thought had it all together while you wanted to cry did not have it all together. So much more helpful that you were open with your neighbor, for you I'm sure, but especially for her.

You sound so much better! I am very happy! And I think you deserve major props for how you handled your dad. My mother used to give me the same line about not needing medication for depression. That went on for years. Then one year, depression hit her. She called me to her house one day, while she was in bed too depressed to even get dressed, and APOLOGIZED to me for those years when she didn't believe that depression was a real illness and needed to be treated.

I wish she could have understood without having to go through it herself, but sometimes it just takes a mile in the other person's shoes. Your dad may never get it. But you have the right approach - it is his problem, not yours. You know what is best for you and you are the only one you are accountable to.

Congrats on feeling good!

Oh, it's so good to hear you're doing better! :) I'm glad that the medication and therapy are helping you - I had such a hard time with the "baby blues", I can't imagine what PPD must be like, but I have definitely kept you in my thoughts and prayers!

I think it's also hard to understand the perspective of parents sometimes, especially because they grew up in a whole different era. Mad Men has been teaching me a lot about what it was like to be an adult in the early 60's, and it's really fascinating how different life was lived. (Actually, last Sunday, there was a birth and talk about how different things were done!)

I wish you well and am looking forward to your continued recovery. Thank you so much for blogging through this - it must be hard, but it's so enlightening to what others go through and I think will help me empathize better with others who go through PPD.

Reading your post put a big smile on my face. I could sense that you were indeed feeling better by the tone of your post. I too am on the PPD journey and I can relate 100% to being real with people.

I am so happy for you and glad to see that you are doing so much better :-)

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