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		<title>By: Jan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 10:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Distant Dads are not a new phenom - I am close to 60 and wish my dad knew how to be a dad. Here&#039;s what I did: I can&#039;t (or won&#039;t) compete with the black sheep career criminal that gets all the attention. I don&#039;t need Dad to tell me how good I am. I don&#039;t have to let the hurt rule my life - but it still hurts. I do feel that he missed out on knowing 2 very awesome grandchildren. I know he missed out on seeing me grow into motherhood and grandmotherhood. But bottom line, sweetie, you count to your husband and son. You know what you want from those relationships and it sound like you are a warm, caring, loving mom and wife. Your dad may not care if you are a part of his family but you can be a part of mine anytime you like. I got lucky - at age 27 - and got a fantastic step-dad. The only reason he isn&#039;t &quot;dad&quot; is my biological dad is still alive. Be strong for Monkey and be glad that Tarzan is in your life. It&#039;s on your dad now and it sound like it is going to be his loss</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Distant Dads are not a new phenom &#8211; I am close to 60 and wish my dad knew how to be a dad. Here&#8217;s what I did: I can&#8217;t (or won&#8217;t) compete with the black sheep career criminal that gets all the attention. I don&#8217;t need Dad to tell me how good I am. I don&#8217;t have to let the hurt rule my life &#8211; but it still hurts. I do feel that he missed out on knowing 2 very awesome grandchildren. I know he missed out on seeing me grow into motherhood and grandmotherhood. But bottom line, sweetie, you count to your husband and son. You know what you want from those relationships and it sound like you are a warm, caring, loving mom and wife. Your dad may not care if you are a part of his family but you can be a part of mine anytime you like. I got lucky &#8211; at age 27 &#8211; and got a fantastic step-dad. The only reason he isn&#8217;t &#8220;dad&#8221; is my biological dad is still alive. Be strong for Monkey and be glad that Tarzan is in your life. It&#8217;s on your dad now and it sound like it is going to be his loss</p>
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		<title>By: Anne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:29:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you absolutly did the right thing about telling him how you feel, since emotionally challenged people have a hard time taking hints :). The next thing would be to forgive him. I know it&#039;s really really hard, but unless you make a conscious decision to do that, nothing he&#039;ll ever do matter. Like many comments here said, he probably doesn&#039;t know how to express himself very well, so you gotta be the bigger person. Please remember that none of this mean he doesn&#039;t love you - I&#039;m sure he does, he just seems to have an overly defensive personality for some reason. Maybe for the way he was raised, I don&#039;t know. But regardless, you&#039;re so right for wanting him in Monkey&#039;s life and in your life, and that just shows your heart&#039;s in the right place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you absolutly did the right thing about telling him how you feel, since emotionally challenged people have a hard time taking hints <img src='http://www.hisboyscanswim.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> . The next thing would be to forgive him. I know it&#8217;s really really hard, but unless you make a conscious decision to do that, nothing he&#8217;ll ever do matter. Like many comments here said, he probably doesn&#8217;t know how to express himself very well, so you gotta be the bigger person. Please remember that none of this mean he doesn&#8217;t love you &#8211; I&#8217;m sure he does, he just seems to have an overly defensive personality for some reason. Maybe for the way he was raised, I don&#8217;t know. But regardless, you&#8217;re so right for wanting him in Monkey&#8217;s life and in your life, and that just shows your heart&#8217;s in the right place.</p>
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		<title>By: "little" one</title>
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		<dc:creator>"little" one</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 14:29:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ TechyDad

I haven&#039;t met most of the members of my dad&#039;s side.... but my mom&#039;s side is pretty much like &quot;My Big Fat Greek Wedding&quot; lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ TechyDad</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t met most of the members of my dad&#8217;s side&#8230;. but my mom&#8217;s side is pretty much like &#8220;My Big Fat Greek Wedding&#8221; lol</p>
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		<title>By: MVP</title>
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		<dc:creator>MVP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 05:09:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You just have to decide, is it better to have a relationship with a person who can so suddenly turn on you and give the silent treatment for months? Or is it better to not have them in your life? Only you can decide that. 

Also, do you want to invite this on your son? If your dad pulls this business on everyone else in the family (you, your mom, your brother), he&#039;ll pull it with your son at some point. What if he promises to be there for Grandparents Day at school, then ditches your little guy because he&#039;s holding a petty grudge against YOU for some reason? That sort of thing, I could never stand for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You just have to decide, is it better to have a relationship with a person who can so suddenly turn on you and give the silent treatment for months? Or is it better to not have them in your life? Only you can decide that. </p>
<p>Also, do you want to invite this on your son? If your dad pulls this business on everyone else in the family (you, your mom, your brother), he&#8217;ll pull it with your son at some point. What if he promises to be there for Grandparents Day at school, then ditches your little guy because he&#8217;s holding a petty grudge against YOU for some reason? That sort of thing, I could never stand for.</p>
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		<title>By: Gilz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gilz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 13:28:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is also the kind of relationship I have with my father.  I used to be sad about it but I can&#039;t expect to want something that I want.  If he is anything like my father, he never speaks of matters of the heart, he never expresses any emotion except angry and frustration.  I used to feel sorry for him - that he&#039;s missing out on life but if he doesn&#039;t want to change - you can&#039;t make it.

Its hard but eventually you learn to live with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is also the kind of relationship I have with my father.  I used to be sad about it but I can&#8217;t expect to want something that I want.  If he is anything like my father, he never speaks of matters of the heart, he never expresses any emotion except angry and frustration.  I used to feel sorry for him &#8211; that he&#8217;s missing out on life but if he doesn&#8217;t want to change &#8211; you can&#8217;t make it.</p>
<p>Its hard but eventually you learn to live with it.</p>
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		<title>By: Mindykoob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mindykoob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 12:25:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jane, I too have a dysfunctional relationship with my mother. She is very self-centered and lives for herself. She used my college fund to buy herself a new car, but gave me $1000 of it b/c she thought that was the right thing to do lol And that&#039;s only the beginning. I could go on and on but i won&#039;t bore you.

I agree with the majority in that this is your dad&#039;s way of reaching out, though it does suck. I do think you should perhaps ask him if he received your other email, and if so maybe ask him if he has any thoughts on it. But i wouldn&#039;t expect any miracles or anything drastic. Play it by ear. Remember that you&#039;ve done ALL you can do to try to mend this. You&#039;ve given this a tremendous effort. The ball is in his court as you said. I don&#039;t really foresee him apologizing or anything like that, with how you described him and his actions in the past, but if this is his way of reaching out, then you take what you can get. Perhaps the relationship will never be what it was, but at least it will be existent.

My mom has changed for the better since my son was born. I didn&#039;t expect it out of her, but he did change something. Granted we&#039;ll never be what we once were, but it&#039;s nice to know she loves my son so much, and is anxious to be a part of his life. I do wish this for you. Is your mom proactive at all??

Much  love to you and T and baby monkey. Hang in there. If anything you&#039;ve begun to break this cycle with your son</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jane, I too have a dysfunctional relationship with my mother. She is very self-centered and lives for herself. She used my college fund to buy herself a new car, but gave me $1000 of it b/c she thought that was the right thing to do lol And that&#8217;s only the beginning. I could go on and on but i won&#8217;t bore you.</p>
<p>I agree with the majority in that this is your dad&#8217;s way of reaching out, though it does suck. I do think you should perhaps ask him if he received your other email, and if so maybe ask him if he has any thoughts on it. But i wouldn&#8217;t expect any miracles or anything drastic. Play it by ear. Remember that you&#8217;ve done ALL you can do to try to mend this. You&#8217;ve given this a tremendous effort. The ball is in his court as you said. I don&#8217;t really foresee him apologizing or anything like that, with how you described him and his actions in the past, but if this is his way of reaching out, then you take what you can get. Perhaps the relationship will never be what it was, but at least it will be existent.</p>
<p>My mom has changed for the better since my son was born. I didn&#8217;t expect it out of her, but he did change something. Granted we&#8217;ll never be what we once were, but it&#8217;s nice to know she loves my son so much, and is anxious to be a part of his life. I do wish this for you. Is your mom proactive at all??</p>
<p>Much  love to you and T and baby monkey. Hang in there. If anything you&#8217;ve begun to break this cycle with your son</p>
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		<title>By: peta</title>
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		<dc:creator>peta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 03:28:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jane it took me and my father 12 years to speak to one another we had not speken since he kicked me out of hime at 16,  and it is only now because of his grandchild that we have any sort of relationship.

 I decided when i made the initial contact  to tell him i was pregnant that the past was the past and i refused to go down that road again and drag up all our issues weather or not this is a good thing i don&#039;t know it&#039;s really too early to tell but i have been amazed at his effort to call and come and visit me. 

 I can only say that men have trouble expressing there emotions and this leaves us daughters out in the cold at times not knowing where to turn.. Maybe you need to forgive him for his misgivings  and try and move forward, as I can speak from experience that bringing the past up in the form of an email will not get the results you want I bet he is shocked and even embarassed that he has left his daughter feeling that she can not speak about this in person. and even more shocked and ashamed  that your message  was received via email I bet he has not even told your mum about the email.  

From the sounds of it there were good times as well and it is important to realise that although he struggles to show his emotions and has totally disregarded your email that he does love you and monkey..  

I hope you can work it out with him and that he starts to share in Monkey&#039;s life as it has made me very happy seeing my father with his first grandchild 

It&#039;s funny I read this post minutes before my dad arrived for a visit I am just replying now after he has left.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jane it took me and my father 12 years to speak to one another we had not speken since he kicked me out of hime at 16,  and it is only now because of his grandchild that we have any sort of relationship.</p>
<p> I decided when i made the initial contact  to tell him i was pregnant that the past was the past and i refused to go down that road again and drag up all our issues weather or not this is a good thing i don&#8217;t know it&#8217;s really too early to tell but i have been amazed at his effort to call and come and visit me. </p>
<p> I can only say that men have trouble expressing there emotions and this leaves us daughters out in the cold at times not knowing where to turn.. Maybe you need to forgive him for his misgivings  and try and move forward, as I can speak from experience that bringing the past up in the form of an email will not get the results you want I bet he is shocked and even embarassed that he has left his daughter feeling that she can not speak about this in person. and even more shocked and ashamed  that your message  was received via email I bet he has not even told your mum about the email.  </p>
<p>From the sounds of it there were good times as well and it is important to realise that although he struggles to show his emotions and has totally disregarded your email that he does love you and monkey..  </p>
<p>I hope you can work it out with him and that he starts to share in Monkey&#8217;s life as it has made me very happy seeing my father with his first grandchild </p>
<p>It&#8217;s funny I read this post minutes before my dad arrived for a visit I am just replying now after he has left.</p>
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		<title>By: Jolene</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jolene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 01:19:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am going to try to keep this short and simple.

I am not sure where I heard this (my husband says he said it to my daughter but I don&#039;t remember that!  LOL), but I think it applies here:

You can&#039;t control other people&#039;s actions... all you can control is how YOU react to them.

From the sounds of it, your father is the man he was when you were born.  He hasn&#039;t changed over the years.  There is nothing you are going to be able to do to make him into the dad you want him to be.

You will have to make a choice.  Either to accept him the way he is or not have him in your life.  

It stinks.  It isn&#039;t fun.  Or nice.  You will never have your &#039;dream&#039; father.  But you will still have a father- and monkey will still have a grandfather.  Even if it is only in small doses that you can tolerate.  

And remember, sometimes the best lessens we learn in life the ones we learn by the mistakes others make.  Like Tarzan said- you are not like your dad.  You learned what kind of parent NOT to be by his example.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am going to try to keep this short and simple.</p>
<p>I am not sure where I heard this (my husband says he said it to my daughter but I don&#8217;t remember that!  LOL), but I think it applies here:</p>
<p>You can&#8217;t control other people&#8217;s actions&#8230; all you can control is how YOU react to them.</p>
<p>From the sounds of it, your father is the man he was when you were born.  He hasn&#8217;t changed over the years.  There is nothing you are going to be able to do to make him into the dad you want him to be.</p>
<p>You will have to make a choice.  Either to accept him the way he is or not have him in your life.  </p>
<p>It stinks.  It isn&#8217;t fun.  Or nice.  You will never have your &#8216;dream&#8217; father.  But you will still have a father- and monkey will still have a grandfather.  Even if it is only in small doses that you can tolerate.  </p>
<p>And remember, sometimes the best lessens we learn in life the ones we learn by the mistakes others make.  Like Tarzan said- you are not like your dad.  You learned what kind of parent NOT to be by his example.</p>
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		<title>By: Happy Mommy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Happy Mommy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 22:40:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aww Jane, my heart goes out to you!  Like the previous posters, I believe your dad&#039;s invitation to his house on Sunday is his way of trying to forge a relationship with you again.  Most older guys have a very hard time talking about their emotions.  More than likely, he read your email, and his question of, &quot;You sound depressed&quot; was probably his way of trying to care about how you feel.  It&#039;s tough for guys to hear that what they did wasn&#039;t what was needed; and it&#039;s even tougher for them to admit they were wrong and that they could have done a better job.  My grandpa, who is a wonderful man, never showed emotion.  When I was little, I would give him a hug, and it was like hugging a tree trunk--no hug back, no nothing.  When I would say, &quot;I love you Grandpa&quot; he would answer with &quot;Yep.&quot;  I knew he loved me, but he never expressed it.  After having thyroid cancer and successfully recovering from that, he will now at least say, &quot;You too&quot; when I say I love you to him.  He also gives my son kisses; I never got kisses as a kid!  

Go on Sunday and attempt to have a conversation with your father.  Show off Monkey and tell him about how Monkey is growing and what he&#039;s doing.  This is one of those times that you have to take the high road and do what&#039;s hardest and that&#039;s be nice to your dad, but if you work at it, there may be a time that you can talk about your feelings with him.  Good luck, Jane!  You&#039;ve worked through other difficult things before; I know you can work through this one, too!  :o)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aww Jane, my heart goes out to you!  Like the previous posters, I believe your dad&#8217;s invitation to his house on Sunday is his way of trying to forge a relationship with you again.  Most older guys have a very hard time talking about their emotions.  More than likely, he read your email, and his question of, &#8220;You sound depressed&#8221; was probably his way of trying to care about how you feel.  It&#8217;s tough for guys to hear that what they did wasn&#8217;t what was needed; and it&#8217;s even tougher for them to admit they were wrong and that they could have done a better job.  My grandpa, who is a wonderful man, never showed emotion.  When I was little, I would give him a hug, and it was like hugging a tree trunk&#8211;no hug back, no nothing.  When I would say, &#8220;I love you Grandpa&#8221; he would answer with &#8220;Yep.&#8221;  I knew he loved me, but he never expressed it.  After having thyroid cancer and successfully recovering from that, he will now at least say, &#8220;You too&#8221; when I say I love you to him.  He also gives my son kisses; I never got kisses as a kid!  </p>
<p>Go on Sunday and attempt to have a conversation with your father.  Show off Monkey and tell him about how Monkey is growing and what he&#8217;s doing.  This is one of those times that you have to take the high road and do what&#8217;s hardest and that&#8217;s be nice to your dad, but if you work at it, there may be a time that you can talk about your feelings with him.  Good luck, Jane!  You&#8217;ve worked through other difficult things before; I know you can work through this one, too!  <img src='http://www.hisboyscanswim.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif' alt=':o' class='wp-smiley' /> )</p>
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		<title>By: Hannah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hannah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 22:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m so sorry about all of this. My family is totally dysfunctional, so I know how you feel.

One question.... you mentioned a few weeks ago that you guys are moving. Is it so that you can move closer to these people?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m so sorry about all of this. My family is totally dysfunctional, so I know how you feel.</p>
<p>One question&#8230;. you mentioned a few weeks ago that you guys are moving. Is it so that you can move closer to these people?</p>
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