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Mommy Friends: When the friendship goes sour FAST

by Jane on September 1, 2010 · 20 comments

Mommy Friends.

mommy friendsWe all need ‘em to talk to. To bitch to.  To ask questions.  To make sure that we are doing this whole mom thing right.  To be around another adult that you can actually carry on a conversation with.

Mom friends are IMPORTANT.

Surprisingly making mom friends has been pretty easy for me… but I’ve had to sift through some, um, weird ones to get to the ones that I really like.

Not being someone who wanted to stay home all of the time with Monkey, I sat out to meet other moms & join mommy groups.  Who in the world knew how complicated some of these mommy groups were?!  Seriously.  Besides filling out your application, there were rules.

“You must attend at least two playdates a month or you will be kicked out.”

“You must wear the xyz shirt & carry a balloon so we know who you are.”  (Not even kidding on this one.)

“You must go through an initial period where you are not part of the group.  We will need to meet you & then decide if you are a right “fit” for our group.”

Mommy groups are no joke.

Anyways, I passed all of the tests & found one group that I love.  The people are great & I’ve made some wonderful friends. But I’m not here to blog about those awesome people.

Instead I’m going to tell you about one girl in particular.  Let’s call her “Gina”.

I met Gina in March at a daily exercise thing I was doing.  After seeing someone everyday you become friendly.  We exchanged phone numbers & were Facebook buddies.  I was excited to have a new friend!  Like I mentioned, we saw each other daily, but never outside of this exercise thing.

Then I arranged a mom’s night out & she joined me & a few other ladies.  We started at a Tapas Bar & it was a really fun time.  She is SO much more reserved than I am, but that wasn’t a big deal to me.  Anyways, she left us early to go home while we stayed out.  I thought nothing of it & had a good night.

Then things got weird.

I invited her & her son out to lunch.  To the Children’s Museum.  To the zoo.  To the mall play area.  To our house.  & nothing.  She had crazy excuses each time, including my personal favorite “I’m disinfecting my house today”.  Ohhh really?!

I stopped going to the exercise thing because it interfered with Monkey’s morning nap.  We both stopped texting each other & naturally I stopped inviting her out because she always said no… er, I mean she always had a crazy reason.

Oh, I should add that the very few times we did make plans, she would always contact me right before we would supposed to hang out & ask to “reschedule”.  Every damn time.

Anyways, the final straw was Monkey’s party.  She RSVPed that her family would be there, so I planned on them being there.  That means food, cupcakes, & the personalized party favor for her son.  Literally the day before his party I get a text saying that she won’t be able to attend.

Her in-laws were surprisingly them with a visit, she texted.  I texted her back that she could bring the in-laws.  The more the merrier.  She said no.  She asked if she could give Monkey’s present to another girl in our exercise class.  I told her she was going to class.  She asked if she could bring it over instead.  OK fine, I texted.

She dropped the gift off & it was a little awkward between us.  In my mind I already wrote her off just because she could never commit to anything & that’s annoying.  I get that we have kids & can’t always commit, but this girl never committed.

So the part that bothered me was that I don’t remember doing anything to piss her off.  I was always nice to her & invited her places.  She would confide in me about how her checking account would be overdrawn, so I’m thinking she didn’t have too much extra money to spend… But remember, I did invite her over to play with Monkey’s toys at our house.  It’s free.

& the zoo is free because we are members.  & the same goes for the Children’s Museum actually.  So it just doesn’t add up.

Well at Monkey’s party a mutual friend of ours made some comment about Gina not being at the party.  I didn’t say anything, but just said that something came up.  Our friend had a funny smirk on her fact & I asked her if she knew something that I didn’t know.

Apparently Gina had told our friend at an exercise class that after she went out with us, going out just wasn’t her thing.  She said that she would much rather hang out with her husband & son than to go out with friends.  (This is super weird to me, by the way.  I love my husband & adore my son, but good grief, I need a break from them too.)

So I still don’t totally get what happened to our friendship.  I guess we are just very different people.

What about y’all?  Have any funny stories of a friendship gone sour?  Or joining a mommy group?

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Maybe the friendship just wasn't meant to be. But had it been me that was in your shoes, I'd be annoyed too!

I think I have been this friend. I have met someone at a class and was like this is cool. We chatted, texted, etc. Then we went "out". Going out with her I found out she was completely different than what I thought and I just didn't want to be around her anymore.

I should have been a bigger person and told her what was going on but how do you tell someone you don't like them? It is not an easy conversation. When feelings are on the line, it can be hard.

I wouldn't take it personally because as you said she is more conservative than you.

Despite what others here have said, I do think that Jane was doing everything possible to be friendly to Gina. All this talk of Post Partum Depression and Social Anxiety and the like is all speculation. Honestly, the woman never offered an real explanation for her elusive behaviour, so I can see why Jane thinks she's a weirdo. I have a neighbour who "dissappeared" once school started, even though she still has two young children at home. All four of her childen played with my 2 1/2 year old daughter over the summer nearly every day. Now she doesn't even say hello. Weird? Maybe. Annoying? Yes!

"Anyways, the final straw was Monkey’s party. She RSVPed that her family would be there, so I planned on them being there. That means food, cupcakes, & the personalized party favor for her son."

Maybe if you weren't so obsessive about a one year old's birthday party (personalized party favor? Are you kidding me?) and just made plenty of food and cupcakes (seriously, what's 4 more when you have a guest list of 70) you wouldn't freak out about this so much. Clearly there are some things going on in her life that make it difficult for her to be a friend to you, but it doesn't seem like you're trying to be that empathetic or understanding.

Maybe she reads your blog and made the connection.

Its VERY hard to make good friends. Sometimes you get really great friends and then there are those who you come to find were just there to use you. I had a friend who was cool to hang out with but when she got a new friend of her nationality all of a sudden i didnt exist and she wouldnt come over or see me anymore. I was just there as a "filler" friend from her last friend to her finding a new one.

Maybe, she has an anxiety disorder and feels uncomfortable in certain social situations. She may want to get together but then feels nervous and uncomfortable. Perhaps, she feels safe alone with her husband and son...Just throwing it out there..

Sounds like she just doesn't like to "go out" and the evening of drinks was too much for her. Just delete that friend since she obviously cannot communicate. Otherwise, nice to see new posts!

Instead of judging her perhaps you might try and understand where she is coming from. Maybe she isn't weird and has a posessive husband. Maybe she has PPA and doesn't feel comfortable around people other than her son and her husband. It seems really insensitive to me that you have/had PPD but have absolutely no understanding of people with other postpartum conditions. I get panic attacks when I'm around a lot of people that I don't know very well. I also tend to flake/reschedule/make excuses so that I don't have to go out. Is it normal? No. This hardly justifies calling it weird though.

You yourself have admitted to being a flake and not answering your phone as much as you should. Funny how easy it is to judge when the shoe is on the other foot.

Ok, so I was just thinking about joining one of those groups to get out of the house more, but I'm honestly a little frightened now..lol. Don't sweat it Jane! I've had very similar things happen to me as well. I think I've even been the "weird" one before. Sometimes, at a certain moment, you just realize that you don't want to hang out with someone anymore. Instead of just telling them, you make up excuses to not hurt their feelings. So immature, I know! but we're only human I suppose. Then again, I'm definitely like you in the way of needing to go out once in awhile....bring on the Tapas bars I say...:)

seems to me like there is something more to this...
I know I have lost friends becuase I have felt I can not keep up with them... If she is financially strained It just might be that she does not want to feel like a charity case by taking you up on your offer of free outings... I know from your point of view it seems crazy to knock back a free play date but when you can not even afford to buy a drink It sometimes is nicer just to stay at home with your child and husband then it is to go out and not enjoy your self because you can not even buy a drink or lunch....

I also know what it is like to live with a person who suffers from anxiety and depression and this can have a huge effect on your social life... My partner cannot be around big groups for long periods of time.. He has to get out of there for what ever reason.. I have had to take our daughter to his families gatherings on my own at times because of his anxiety....

on the other hand I have a friend who I have been friends with for over 10 years... We live quite a distance from each other so catching up is hard.. She is the Queen of canceling on me she is always saying she is sorry and she does not know how I put up with her and how she is such a bad friend I tried to keep the friendship going because we have been friends for such a long time... she has a daughter a few months old then mine so I always imagined our girls would grow up being best of friends... I have accepted now that this probably will not happen...

Are we friends with the same Gina? But seriously I know someone named Gina who is crazy! I tried to invite her out, but she says things like "Baby needs to nap from 9-11 and 12-3 in his crib daily. And I go to the gym on Wed/Thurs." Um, okay if you have that schedule no wonder people don't want to hang out with you. I still email invite her to outings but it's her loss.

And she wrote a very sad email to everyone saying that people should hang out and come over to her house for specific periods like 1-2 hours. Um, okay.

Friendships take work and honestly people need to be flexible. Otherwise what's the point?

Im new here, just came upon your website one day. After reading , it might sound like she has social anxiety.

I had no idea there were things you had to do to get into Mommy groups. LOL That is weird!!! I have a friend the exact same way. She was pregnant and I had a bunch of stuff I bought for her plus a few other things my son was done with (clothes and such) and she kpt flaking on me. I even offered to drop it off at her house and she flaked every time. It took me 2 weeks to get her the stuff and by that time I was so pissed of that she kept flaking on me that I just wanted to give it to someone who would actually appreciate it. I almost told her off. People are just so weird. Forget about her.

I'm having a hard time with playdates lately - lots of cancellations and I'm going stir crazy! I'm considering trying a playgroup for the first time, but I'll admit I'm intimidated. I don't do social gatherings all that well. I feel awkward. Nonetheless, I'd LOVE to have a few more mommy friends who can relate to my life and what I go through. I am so desperately lacking that right now. It seems everyone is busy and unavailable except me.

I have a fairly close friend who has been treating me rather cold lately. I think she's just going through a lot, but it's tough. I'm not sure our friendship will survive it all.

As for going out - I dunno, I think I'm a little bit like your former friend. I get so little family time (the three of us) that I honestly would rather spend time with J and my husband than go out with the girls. Not to say I'd pass up the chance to go out and enjoy myself, but that I'm happiest and most comfortable when spending time with my little family.

I think she just doesn't like you. I wouldn't call her odd, but it sounds like she doesn't want to be friends with you anymore. It's not a bad thing, some friendships just don't make it, for whatever reasons. Avoidance is the easy way to end relationships. I wouldn't contact her anymore. She's probably thinking,'Ugh, why won't Jane take a hint?' This is probably her way of breaking up with you in a 'nice' way.

She sounds very odd and its probably best that you guys aren't friends. She sounds very frustrating.

Yes, I wouldn't take it personally about your drifting friendship. I've found that if it takes so much effort to be friends that perhaps it's not meant to be? I hate walking on egg shells. Anyhow, I've had a lot of sour friendships in my life. I am a reserved but once you get to know me very outgoing and thoughtful (at least I've been told so). Anyhow, when I found out I was pregnant I was over the moon. I had a friend who had been trying to get pregnant for years. And for us it only took a few months. She was VERY jealous and as a result we're no longer friends. The kicker is little did she know she was just a few months pregnant behind me. DOH! I am a woman but will never understand us!

Maybe so, Jenn. The weird thing is that I can totally accept if someone doesn't like me because of me, but when someone is just a weirdo & stops being my friend, it bothers me. My husband is so annoyed of hearing me talk about her, but I feel obsessed. He also has put it out there that he thinks her husband could be kind of controlling. I think that sounds extreme, but that would answer a lot too. Who knows!

Its kind of hard to tell with just this post, but I get the feeling that it's highly unlikely that things went downhill because of anything on your end. Can't help but to wonder if maybe she has a personal issue that she doesn't feel that she can share with you? Like maybe she has anxiety issues or something?

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